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| Posted: Jan 10th 2007, 12:58 am Edits: 0 |
Who here actually are pro communism, and who here support socialism? |
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| Posted: Jan 10th 2007, 3:17 am Edits: 0 |
On paper, I agree with the basic ideas behind communism. The fact that it doesn't factor in human nature notwithstanding, in a perfect world it'd be a great idea. Completely impossible to pull off properly though. |
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| Posted: Jan 10th 2007, 12:58 pm Edits: 0 |
Oh God.........must contain my bitch-slap-O-gasm........ |
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| Posted: Jan 11th 2007, 12:05 pm Edits: 0 |
Isn't Canada basically a "Socialist" based economy?
Or did I not pay enough attention to that lesson in school? |
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| Posted: Jan 11th 2007, 1:06 pm Edits: 0 |
Lets clear some shit up here.
Communism, is a combined system of economics and government.
Socialism, is a philosophy.
Socialism also happens to be the driving force behind communist economic theory.
The idea that everyone shares everything equal? That would be socialism.
Its like saying what do you prefer? A complete BMW car, or just the engine in the car? They are separate halves to the same machine.
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| Posted: Jan 13th 2007, 6:44 pm Edits: 0 |
u got it backwards. and YES Canada IS socialist |
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| Posted: Jan 13th 2007, 9:16 pm Edits: 0 |
| M_T wrote: | | u got it backwards. and YES Canada IS socialist |
Nope, he got it right. |
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| Posted: Jan 13th 2007, 10:49 pm Edits: 0 |
Canada is not socialist.
At most, we have some people who believe in the ideals of socialism, and this has been applied to some of our civil and economic policy.
You can't really assign many "isms" like that to a democratic country. A democratic country is what its people is, and our standards of freedom when it comes to philosophy are high, meaning the country can contain elements, citizens, and organizations of any and all philosophies.
Communism is fucking retarded as an economic system. No capitalism, no competition, no innovation, no forward movement. When a country decides to adopt communism, its resources become easier to maintain, as the people have no control over them, but at the same time investment is crippled and a lack of competition makes for poor business, and ultimately poor products.
Think of it this way. If we're in Canada, and the only person or organization allowed to make and sell say, pencils, is the government, they will make a decent pencil and everyone will get one when they need a pencil. Joe-bob or Lindsey-Sue can't design a better pencil, make a company, and sell it for cheaper, making more money and advancing the pencil technology. Nobody can. With the monolithic slow nature of government, especially here, that would sink our economy on the global scale lightning fast. |
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| Posted: Jan 14th 2007, 2:09 am Edits: 2 |
| M_T wrote: | | u got it backwards. and YES Canada IS socialist |
I bet you vote NDP don't you?
Those are simple definitions of what you are putting forward. Look them up. I suggest you do some more research into the topics at hand before you shut someone else down like that. We aren't talking about your definition of the topic, we're talking about the real definition.
Cuba is socialist(and even then its a socialist republic)....at least as far as their leaders would allow. A socialist philosophy is about as good as the people who are in it. Its fantastic to share everything you want, but its bad when it comes to getting what you need from people who don't follow the same line as you.
In recent memory I can recall Cuba coming up with a vaccine or a cure of some sort(my memory fails me here), and giving away to the world. Did that help them with the USA trade embargo? Hell no. Socialist societies are very easy to take advantage of, from the inside and the outside.
The man above me is a smart fellow and put it very well and with considerably less venom then I would have.
A man much wiser then I once said, "Every revolution ultimately fails for the same reason. People."
Truth be told I'm getting a little tired of people(mostly young) who seem to think that everything but what is going on is the better way. Ideals are excellent, but you have to have ideas behind them. It would be nice if the world worked out well for everyone and we were all equal, but instead of focusing on that, why don't we think of a way to get there?
There is no end without a journey sir.
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| Posted: Jan 14th 2007, 4:18 pm Edits: 1 |
| Drew MC wrote: | | Truth be told I'm getting a little tired of people(mostly young) who seem to think that everything but what is going on is the better way. |
My personal favorite is "anarchy rulz hell yea anarchy would be so great."
Ignorant morons.
EDIT - I keep losing track of what I'm originally going to say. Ahem.
| Quote: | | u got it backwards. and YES Canada IS socialist |
No, he got it right. And really, the closest to socialism Canada comes is our health care and the fact that for the most part we seem to enjoy helping each other out. And even then it's not socialism, because we don't have to, we choose to. |
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| Posted: Jan 15th 2007, 12:08 am Edits: 0 |
I'm curious if this will remain a debate or even if the originator of this thread will return to post his thoughts beyond, "You're wrong." |
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| Posted: Jan 15th 2007, 2:59 am Edits: 0 |
Doubtful. There's really nothing left to do here, aside from a)derail the thread further or b) get into a "nuh uh!" "yuh huh!" match. And really, who wants to do that on the Internet in a so-called intellectual forum?
Aside from Halo kids. |
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| Posted: Jan 16th 2007, 4:59 pm Edits: 0 |
DANG!
Thought I was right for once!
Das, I totally agree with you about the "Anarchy kids"
Fuckin kids these days,why in my day we didn't have no ipods,and had to walk to school in 5 inches of rain! |
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| Posted: Jan 16th 2007, 11:10 pm Edits: 0 |
I'd like to make one thing clear to all anarchy supporters.
It would last about two days.
Seriously. Let's use Escape From New York as a bitcin' example. When all those prisoners were thrown onto the the island, it was anarchy. There was no law, right? Right.
But then The King stepped up and became the leader. Bam. No more anarchy, that's a monarchy at the least. In an anarchic(sp?) environment, someone can and will always step up and take control because they can.
And Gamertag... you're just mad at iPods (like me) because you don't have one (like me). |
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| Posted: Jan 17th 2007, 2:13 am Edits: 0 |
Is my ipod envy that obvious?
Today I watced in horror as Orville Reddenbacher plugged an ipod in a popcorn commercial. |
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| Posted: Jan 17th 2007, 3:40 am Edits: 0 |
Ever see Blade: Trinity? It's like an hour and a half long iPod commercial with worse music and shittier visual effects. |
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| Posted: Jan 17th 2007, 3:13 pm Edits: 0 |
not to mention that stupid 7th Heaven slut Jessica Biel...she sucks! |
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| Posted: May 2nd 2010, 8:12 am Edits: 0 |
"National socialism is the only way. The Ethos is the Ethnos and will never be otherwise! People find solidarity amongst themselves; Peoples are overcome by Nations(races) and Communism is a universalistic dogma for empty-headed humanists"
Sorry for the rant but...would you happen to agree/disagree with any or all of the above? It happens to be my view. History aside, the only socialism that is democratic is a National Socialism. Hi, I'm Brendan and I will be moving to Surrey soon. Seeking friends and thought this site might be a good idea. Is it free perchance? Get back. |
